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 lucarius70

DER WAHREVALO AND THE ELITISTS

Our former member "DerWahreValo" got on his demand, blue elixirs rights, to take them from the communities safe. He had access to everything .... It was at the time no one online who he could have put in the normal chest, all were offline or at sea, which can ...
But what he did: he took everything .... Reals, gold, expensive resources .... And left the communities ....

I got the with (although I was online but AFK) and wrote to him. I asked him to come back and give the stuff back ....
The fact he came to, but put back a few things ...
The Reals he could actually do not pay back, for practical reasons, since the chest limit was reached this month. When I asked what was the gold, he said something like: "The gold's not" and walked back to communities, joined by VALOR to SADAR and entered (for me very funny) once a Clan at Sadar in ....
The whole chest cleaning took about 3-5Minuten .... Total estimated after 10-15 minutes he was in the new clan ELITISTS an rf thay its ok, he no kick him ....

The Elitist are a really poor club since become Suspira is no longer there and kicking her souvenir with feats especially RF_17

Well, our own fault, we admit also Someone rights a .... Bla bla ....
He was Mitgleid with us since 02/14/2016 ..... On 02/26/2016 he left us with painful expensive things including gold and real. (As 300g and 147 Reals -. Yes, he paid actually a handful in the communities Checkout back) ....

Of course I inormirerte iHiT and hope to hear from you soon ....

I wanted to find out more about these players and at the fact ..
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 Trongster70
AmherstSeems as long as it happens to others, then all is ok. Right Storm and Trongster? I see Elitists like their new clannie. Classy RF, classy.
Incendiary non sequitur.
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 Trongster70
I'd like to also follow-up on the main topic. Everybody deserves just consideration, and we want to make an informed decision. We are still waiting for Ihit's analysis.

Also, I offer you transparency: Our complete chest logs for him thus far:

27.02.2016 05:34 DerWahreValo Adding Money in to clan chest: 20 G
27.02.2016 03:28 DerWahreValo used Resource Storage. Deposited: Jagged Stinger -> 100
26.02.2016 11:54 DerWahreValo used Clan Chest. Withdrawn: Antique Earring of Persistence -> 1
26.02.2016 11:54 DerWahreValo used Clan Chest. Withdrawn: Magnificent Bracelet of Resilience -> 1


Thank you.
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 _Mindless_Prodigy_64
Trongster,

20g for what? 100 jaggered stingers for what?

It seems some of drachens stuff is going into Elitist chest, just slowly. What now RF?
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 Trongster70
Like I said, we don't harbor thieves.

13:18 Heaven's Voice: Member DerWahreValo was removed from your Clan.

End of story. Anything else is just conspiracy and rumor.
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 Amherst66
So.... he is just a drug mule? Ya needed some supplies quick? Really, if things are that bad, just ask, i am sure i can spare some silver for ya to heal with. I get it, healing costs money.
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 Storm Kat70
lucarius,
Thank you for letting someone check the facts. As you know, there was 2 sides to the story and since I have been burned many times by inaccurate information, it was very kind and generous of you to allow Elitists to check things out. I'm sure Ihit will do his investigation and shackle quickly. I'm so sorry you were robbed, I would never wish this to happen to ANY clan.
-EremiT-,
You know where to find me if you need anything at all. ">
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3 weeks without proper internet means a cranky kitty needs some war time!
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 Amherst66
So that person was just a mule for ya? I get healing costs money. If you are that hard up, just ask. I am sure i have some silver i can spare to help ya. No need to turn to a life of crime. Just hold up the i need help sign with pride.
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 Storm Kat70
Lance Corpus.....
As for Elitists...I don't think they had anything to do with you getting robbed. DerWahre asked to join 9th right after he left Drachen too, so I think he is just a thief who ran to a new clan before he could be caught......
Amherst,
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 Amherst66
Does not mean RF welcomes with open arms someone accused of stealing, and then allows the transfer of stolen goods.
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 Trongster70
We are in the process of returning the items and gold DerWahreValo added to our chest back to Drachengarde. We've moved the stingers to the safe for safe keeping. We are now waiting for a response from admin to avoid trade rules violations while returning the property.
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 queen_bee8965
I think elitist have been more than honorable in all that has gone on, and harsh words are not called for, I am elitist and Stand with pride.
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 Ihit70
Shackled for investigation. First look is that he has already spent/exchanged all of it. 50 reals were unfortunately spent on repaying his "loan", 48 reals were used on buying necklace of imperial defender that i will be transferring to your clan, and 40 reals went to one of people in Elitists through steam exchanger. I can check that manually but one of people in elitists should be able to speak out about who got 40 reals on 26th Feb. Will report more later on.

Edit: Clara K is one who got the reals, while i can't transfer directly into your chest i can however return those 40 reals to your leader as well as 100 Jagged Stingers that he placed in Elitists chest. Returned 40 reals and 100 Jagged Stingers from Clara/Elitists to -Eremit- who'll be able to put it back in Clan Chest. Big thanks to Clara K for quick cooperation and easy return.
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 Trongster70
Thank you for your help, Ihit.
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 Leane54
Ihit,
Thank you, and I am glad steps were made to help a wronged clan. ">
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Trzeba mieć wytrwałość i wiarę w siebie. Trzeba wierzyć, że człowiek jest do czegoś zdolny i osiągnąć to za wszelką cenę.
 Storm Kat70
Ihit,
Thank you for dealing with this quickly. It is unfortunate that you are getting lots of practice.

I will question: "50 reals were unfortunately spent on repaying his "loan"" - Could you not force another loan and pay that back to Drach?

And, are there any clanned alts to worry about?
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 Ihit70
As far as Alt's there aren't any except two rather low levels that haven't been played in a very long time.
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 scandelnavia70
Why can't there be a platform built for clan chest access where clan leader can set a value for everything in a clan chest that could possible taken and in order for anyone to take these items they have to pay for that value? Seems this would prevent some of the problems. Thereafter set up a different security level for anyone whom would be given the ability to take , borrow or exchange gold and reals? Seems this thief issues happens on a large level every few months to someone.... This game isn't cheap so I can fully understand the frustrations players have.
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 RUFINA28
thats great, the wahrevalo was kickt from elitists and go to his allianz clan demon fury!
what the hell are you doing there
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 Turalyon53
Late to the party but here's a suggestion for the issue with gold and reals from the safe/chest.

Separate them. Make it an additional condition to take out gold/reals.
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 pearls70
Turalyon

Separate them. Make it an additional condition to take out gold/reals.

There is an option for possibility of reals withdrawan and separate for gold withdrawal for a long time in clan permissions
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