DER WAHREVALO AND THE ELITISTS

Our former member "DerWahreValo" got on his demand, blue elixirs rights, to take them from the communities safe. He had access to everything .... It was at the time no one online who he could have put in the normal chest, all were offline or at sea, which can ...
But what he did: he took everything .... Reals, gold, expensive resources .... And left the communities ....

I got the with (although I was online but AFK) and wrote to him. I asked him to come back and give the stuff back ....
The fact he came to, but put back a few things ...
The Reals he could actually do not pay back, for practical reasons, since the chest limit was reached this month. When I asked what was the gold, he said something like: "The gold's not" and walked back to communities, joined by VALOR to SADAR and entered (for me very funny) once a Clan at Sadar in ....
The whole chest cleaning took about 3-5Minuten .... Total estimated after 10-15 minutes he was in the new clan ELITISTS an rf thay its ok, he no kick him ....

The Elitist are a really poor club since become Suspira is no longer there and kicking her souvenir with feats especially RF_17

Well, our own fault, we admit also Someone rights a .... Bla bla ....
He was Mitgleid with us since 02/14/2016 ..... On 02/26/2016 he left us with painful expensive things including gold and real. (As 300g and 147 Reals -. Yes, he paid actually a handful in the communities Checkout back) ....

Of course I inormirerte iHiT and hope to hear from you soon ....

I wanted to find out more about these players and at the fact ..
Comments
lucarius,
If he doesn't pay back in full what he took then admins will shackle his account. Which specifically will include the reals. You cannot take reals from your clan without paying for them in gold. So unless he switches back and pays the reals that account should be solidly done and perm schackled or he will pay out of pocket. Doesn't help the Drach situation of losing everything, but previous experiences says they will help a little but will blame clan for giving them access to everything.

For admins... if he put the reals into the Elitist ex-changer I think you should take it from the clan and return to drach.
A message to all leaders, just because someone was in AS does NOT give my word at all that they were safe. I was one of the strictest leaders and people in AS waited months to get access. (DerWahreValo never had chest access). I also make every clan member give me permission to have ihit check them out before they get access.

I am just logging on now and hope you all understand, completely, that I am AGAINST all persons who rob from clans. And I truly have petitioned, many times, for admin to fix the flaws with clan chest security. Further to this, I sent requests directly to game insight and have been ignored. This is one of them main reasons I could not keep the clan crown.....

Storm Kat70
27/03/2015 16:53
My Plea to Game Insight Repost with reply
After discussing with Amherst the lack of sympathy from DE admin, she suggested an email to Game Insight might make a difference.
Here is what I wrote:

In the game, Dragon Eternity, I am the Clan Leader for Ancient Specters. Recently, one of my clan members had her account hacked. This hacker stole a LONG list of items from my clan chest. I am very unsatisfied with the responses I get from game admins that this theft cannot be undone. I would like to discuss this further with someone who can actually return the stolen goods to my clan. I have the list of stolen items. I would also like to point out that this has happened to many clans recently and we have used the DE Forum to try to suggest ways to prevent these thefts, but nothing has changed.

You need someone to work closely with the players and soon. This game is a wonderful game, in concept and design, but the community is very broken. Please go read the forums, please make the game more secure, please don't let this game die. Many of us have invested a lot of time and Real Money in the game, just to watch players quit out of frustration.

Again, please read the forums, please save the game, please, return my clan's stolen goods. Please help people like the one hacked to recover from getting hacked, she is a good player that invested money in the game and is being thrown aside because some sick individual decided to hack her account. She is not the first person this has happened to, and will not be the last, so come up with a better plan than simply stating "Too Bad".

I look forward to discussing this further with someone from Game Insight. I will also be encouraging others to write to you as I am far from 'alone' in my frustration. Please reply soon.

Thank You, Kat.

Go To:
www . game-insight . com and click Support, then "Ask question" - DE was listed under the "Social" games.

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Mar 27, 11:59

I understand your reaction to the difficulties you faced when playing our game and I would like to thank you for drawing our attention to this matter. Due to our database some items were transferred to you.

I transferred your comment to our developers for consideration and they will certainly take it into account. By sharing your opinion and experience, you are helping us recognize what we do well, and what we need to focus on improving. We do appreciate that you are playing our game and contribute to making the game better and enjoyable.

Should you have any other suggestions or come across game questions you need my assistance with, please feel free to e-mail me back and open the request for a further discussion. Your interest in our game is highly appreciated!

Sincerely, Natalya Romanyuk Your Support Team
lucarius,

I always hate a thief. Thank you for letting us know. We are currently unable to take any action due to being scheduled for war. We'll leave him on "Novice" role until we can set it straight.

In addition, we do still mourn the loss of Suspira. However, our core clan nature has not changed. You can still communicate with us, any elder should do. I do not know the nature of your conversation with RF, but he does not necessarily speak for the entire clan and may not have had the full information. I'm sure once well informed he'll be in agreement.

Finally, I did quite enjoy your rampage on us earlier, and I hope you had fun with it, too. It does help break the monotony. But I feel it distracts from the key topic. We're here, communication lines open. Words often work better than swords should you want a peaceful outcome.

I do hope Ihit is able to recover your losses to their fullest.


Best wishes,

Trongster
@ Trongster
leave clan dragons garde 26/02/2016 17:30
DerWahreValo verließ den Clan!

check in to Elitists 26/02/2016 17:31
Der Clan hat ein neues Mitglied – DerWahreValo!

and kicking for whalo to this time 26/02/2016 17:29
- skipper - verließ den Clan! one minute before whalo recife the clan thats thay all

and you want to tell me that was previously agreed not , look up to the clan pages
and I say it again , it it a shame what happened to the elitists .
RF was written his statement was we 'll see what happens , but it is not excluded . the fast running to explain then I think everything . nevertheless, the elitists are further behind him or stuck with it.
with suspira would never something like that , she was fairly loyal faithful and sincere.
the elitists have unfortunately their integrity and their soul lost with her
lucarius,
First of all you haven't spoken to me at all.
I told Eremit that he should report to ihit and that Ihit will take whatever action is appropriate. If that means shackling him or whatever then sobeit. It is not for me to police your clan, nor do I know full details of what happened. That is what the game admins are for.
Second it was not pre-arranged, you are angry and just trying to blame me, that's your problem. There were a few minutes before potentially being in the war count and someone asked to join. So I booted an inactive player. Then all the chatter started about how he was a thief etc, but then we were in the war countdown.
What I do know is that you then went on a rage and started bcing people, including bio hazard who was on hop multiple times. And you want to talk about integrity, don't make me laugh.
@rf
how is that all when not in your chest
26.02.2016 17:43 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Gezahnter Stachel -> 114
26.02.2016 17:43 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Fester Flügel -> 222
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Giftstachel -> 783
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Clansafe I, entfernt: Dunkler Rum -> 924
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Clansafe I, entfernt: Machtvolle Sphäre des Nosferatu -> 1052
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Clansafe I, entfernt: Gewöhnliches Elixier der Ausdauer -> 513
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Clansafe I, entfernt: Gewöhnliches Elixier des Lebens -> 381
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Clansafe I, entfernt: Leichtes Zeichen der Absorption I -> 2
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Clansafe I, entfernt: Leichtes Zeichen der Raserei I -> 2
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Clansafe I, entfernt: Sidian -> 62
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Clansafe I, entfernt: Machtvolles Elixier der Ausdauer -> 423
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Clansafe I, entfernt: Makelloses Elixier der Ausdauer -> 357
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Clansafe I, entfernt: Makelloses Elixier des Lebens -> 1304
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Clansafe I, entfernt: Machtvolles Elixier des Lebens -> 1240
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Pfeffer -> 362
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Seebarbe -> 1597
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Seebarbenfilet -> 1100
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Hortenafilet -> 1900
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Zuckerrohr -> 37
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Starkes inaktives Symbol der Sechs Schulen von Aadan -> 3
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Starker Kampfsplitter eines Zeichens -> 12
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Starker Elementarer Splitter eines Zeichens -> 9
26.02.2016 17:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Starker Magischer Splitter eines Zeichens -> 74

26.02.2016 17:41 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Großer Kampfsplitter des Zeichens -> 4
26.02.2016 17:41 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Großer Zaubersplitter des Zeichens -> 14
26.02.2016 17:41 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Schwerer Magischer Splitter eines Zeichens -> 73
26.02.2016 17:41 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Schwerer Elementarer Splitter eines Zeichens -> 4
26.02.2016 17:41 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Schwerer Kampfplitter eines Zeichens -> 34
26.02.2016 17:41 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, entfernt: Einfacher Stern der Erkenntnis -> 10
26.02.2016 17:41 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, entfernt: Gebratene Kustera mit Grünbeilage -> 2
26.02.2016 17:41 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, entfernt: Fleischroulade -> 3
26.02.2016 17:41 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, entfernt: Machtvolle Sphäre der Stärke -> 510
26.02.2016 17:41 DerWahreValo Geld aus Clantruhe nehmen: 7 R
26.02.2016 17:41 DerWahreValo Geld aus Clantruhe nehmen: 160 R
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26.02.2016 17:41 DerWahreValo Geld aus Clantruhe nehmen: 304 Z
25.02.2016 14:38 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, entfernt: Einfacher Stern der Erkenntnis -> 10
25.02.2016 14:38 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, entfernt: Weizenlaib -> 100
25.02.2016 14:38 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, entfernt: Getrocknete Dorade -> 2
25.02.2016 14:38 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, entfernt: Phionit des Madhar-Skeletars des Mondes -> 1
25.02.2016 14:39 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, entfernt: Leichtes Zeichen des Wassers "Reflexion I" -> 1
25.02.2016 14:39 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, entfernt: Leichtes Zeichen des Feuers "Reflexion I" -> 1
25.02.2016 14:39 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, entfernt: Leichtes Zeichen der Absorption I -> 1
25.02.2016 14:39 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, entfernt: Funke der Schöpfung -> 6
25.02.2016 14:41 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Kupfererz -> 11
25.02.2016 14:41 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Simples alchemistisches Pulver -> 23
25.02.2016 14:41 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Spitzer Stachel -> 1000
25.02.2016 14:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Kunstvoller Kampfsplitter eines Zeichens -> 3
25.02.2016 14:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Kunstvoller magischer Splitter eines Zeichens -> 7
25.02.2016 14:42 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Spitzer Stachel -> 765
25.02.2016 14:43 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Rezept für Zeichen des Feuers "Verteidigung I" -> 1
25.02.2016 14:59 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, eingezahlt: Kleines Elixier des Lebens -> 1
25.02.2016 17:57 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, entfernt: Einfacher Balsam der Raserei -> 1
25.02.2016 17:57 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Zinnerz -> 83
25.02.2016 17:58 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Fellfetzen -> 105
25.02.2016 17:58 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Kunstvolles Magisches Inaktives Zeichen -> 1
25.02.2016 17:58 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Kunstvolles Inaktives Kampfzeichen -> 1
25.02.2016 19:17 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, entfernt: Makelloses Elixier der Ausdauer -> 3
25.02.2016 19:19 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, entfernt: Funke der Schöpfung -> 19
25.02.2016 19:23 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, entfernt: Schriftrolle der Beschwörung des Asche-Clavicaudus -> 1
25.02.2016 19:23 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, entfernt: Funke der Schöpfung -> 4
25.02.2016 23:02 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Fellfetzen -> 18
25.02.2016 23:02 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Kieferknochen -> 6
25.02.2016 23:02 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Kunstvolles Magisches Inaktives Zeichen -> 1
25.02.2016 23:02 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , entfernt: Kunstvolles Inaktives Kampfzeichen -> 1
lucarius,
None of that in elitists CC, so please carry on with your lunatic conspiracy theory
lucariusDER WAHREVALO AND THE ELITISTS


I got the with (although I was online but AFK) and wrote to him. I asked him to come back and give the stuff back ....
The fact he came to, but put back a few things ...


And you still dont feel the need to post the whole chest log?
@clara korn
sorry her is was he give back

26.02.2016 18:24 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , eingezahlt: Starker Elementarer Splitter eines Zeichens -> 9
26.02.2016 18:24 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , eingezahlt: Starker Kampfsplitter eines Zeichens -> 12
26.02.2016 18:24 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , eingezahlt: Starker Magischer Splitter eines Zeichens -> 74
26.02.2016 18:24 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , eingezahlt: Giftstachel -> 123
26.02.2016 18:24 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , eingezahlt: Zuckerrohr -> 37
26.02.2016 18:24 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , eingezahlt: Hortenafilet -> 600
26.02.2016 18:24 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , eingezahlt: Seebarbe -> 297
26.02.2016 18:24 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , eingezahlt: Gezahnter Stachel -> 14
26.02.2016 18:24 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , eingezahlt: Fester Flügel -> 22
26.02.2016 18:25 DerWahreValo verwendet Ressourcenlager , eingezahlt: Seebarbenfilet -> 100
26.02.2016 18:25 DerWahreValo Geld in Clantruhe einzahlen: 19.16 R
26.02.2016 18:25 DerWahreValo Geld in Clantruhe einzahlen: 27 Z, 19 C
26.02.2016 18:26 DerWahreValo verwendet Clansafe I, eingezahlt: Machtvolles Elixier des Lebens -> 140
26.02.2016 18:26 DerWahreValo verwendet Clansafe I, eingezahlt: Machtvolles Elixier der Ausdauer -> 23
26.02.2016 18:26 DerWahreValo verwendet Clansafe I, eingezahlt: Gewöhnliches Elixier der Ausdauer -> 46
26.02.2016 18:26 DerWahreValo verwendet Clansafe I, eingezahlt: Gewöhnliches Elixier des Lebens -> 22
26.02.2016 18:26 DerWahreValo verwendet Clansafe I, eingezahlt: Makelloses Elixier des Lebens -> 56
26.02.2016 18:26 DerWahreValo verwendet Clansafe I, eingezahlt: Makelloses Elixier der Ausdauer -> 60
26.02.2016 18:27 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, eingezahlt: Gewöhnliche Sphäre der Stärke -> 630
26.02.2016 18:27 DerWahreValo verwendet Clantruhe, eingezahlt: Makellose Sphäre des Wagemuts -> 19
lucarius,
Correct, not a single one of those things are in elitist CC. Next conspiracy theory?
@ clara
you can come to us in clan and can look self no prob
@ rf
or no more and he has change it to his alt
I don't think he intended to take money and resources to specifically give it to Elitists. But, if he took all the reals and resources without putting anything in, that's just a dick move. What a dick. And, I hope you will be reimbursed fully. I hope they don't just send you a nicely worded letter. I am not sure the nature of the reimbursement Storm Kat was given, but I hope it was actually compensation that matched or somewhat matched what was taken without permission. If not, that is just a bad move on the game's part in my opinion.
"the reimbursement Storm Kat was given,"
1 - wasn't even close to the loses
2 - it was taken from the hacked account and her alts (collections pieces and gold). I had to take a long long time to sell the collection pieces and clan had to work hard to rebuild clan chest. And when the player was able to get back on, after proving that she was hacked, she had to rebuild everything herself as all her transferrable gear was given to clan. She is a trusted member and we did what we could to help her out, but it took her a lot of courage to come back, and I'm glad she did.

Getting robbed as a clan is a mess. It's disgusting to me that imaginary items in this game cannot be simply added back to the clan chest. Even if ihit had to transfer the items to the clan leader in a trade, why can't it be done?
Hey Luca -

Sorry for your clan getting scammed. I hope the admins are able to return some of what you've lost and can get rid of this thief from the game. Whatever help 9th can provide getting your chest back in decent shape, PM me in game (or one of the other council people) and we'll try to help out.

As for Elitists...I don't think they had anything to do with you getting robbed. DerWahre asked to join 9th right after he left Drachen too, so I think he is just a thief who ran to a new clan before he could be caught.

-Lance-
Storm Kat,
I figured. It was pretty much a pretty nicely written note that was their way of saying: Sorry, it's not our fault. We will give you the minimum. I remember The Fallen not getting proper compensation either.
Seems as long as it happens to others, then all is ok. Right Storm and Trongster? I see Elitists like their new clannie. Classy RF, classy.
AmherstSeems as long as it happens to others, then all is ok. Right Storm and Trongster? I see Elitists like their new clannie. Classy RF, classy.
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