Still no valor for fighting back

We all agree that this needs to be changed, so can we please either get it changed or explain why it won't be?
We fight back as best we can when attacked. It's better for both sides when we do. Please reward us for our efforts!
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Were you repeatedly attacked before hand?
no they were not on this one, there were some really unfortunate words used by one of their members towards one of our members and that fight occurred along with a couple more. Overall there are not many fights between HF and AS until some people decide to insult. BC is the way the game allows you to retaliate and not get into a war of harsh words. If I remember this correctly our clan leader offered to heal any curses that were received in this fight.
This was a great, fair, and "deserved" BC. Not complaining about the reasons for it. And yes, we were healed (well, except the trouble maker who had to wait).
That was the first and only fight I took part in, as I was bc'd directly. This is just another example of PvP fights where defending was costly and there was gear damage, and nothing else. As you know there have been a couple threads now, again, not complaining about the bc themselves, just the lack of valor for them. If this is a bug, please do let me know, and I will gladly pick some fights to use the bug button on. ">
Valor Please.

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Storm KatValor Please.

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I don't think you're going to affect any change. I think zero valor for the loser is a central part of the bc sphere. It can be used for pure punishment: loser gets nothing but pain.
"Valor is what makes you stand your ground firmly when countless hordes of Shaab plunge your world into chaos. Valor is the thread you hang onto when everything around you crumbles. Valor is the cause behind legendary deeds and victories against all odds."
From the Martial Valor description. As far as I can tell BC, on mainland, is the only time not awarded for valor. Why is that? Curious wants to know. Seems to me that the descriptions of valor are based on fighting even when the odds are against you.
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I think zero valor for the loser is a central part of the bc sphere. It can be used for pure punishment: loser gets nothing but pain.

Never looked at it like that before...pure punishment, nothing but pain.
Kinda like skydiving with no parachute...Its a once in a life time experience...lol
Debate has been reopened again, with the achievements making BC'ing littles Very Popular. And a reward for bc'ing on hop/garuug.

So still, no reply, why no valor for BC fight loses? I understand the no heroism for losers in SB/War fights, that has been explained, but why no valor in losing BC fights.
Always has been that way. get a big enough group and beat the attacking person and they get no valor. it goes both ways
Same post below :D

Seriously tho, we need valor for lost BC, all other give, I havent lost a BC yet (on this toon), but I have before, many a time, where some people would do tons of damage for nothing
-Vector-,
25/04/2015 07:26 and not the first I wrote asking for this, just the most recent.

Snow Ball Man,
Nice Try, but most the people doing the bc'ing are valor capped, so even if we do get enough to win, it makes 0 difference to the bc'ers. I will send people to defend, but no matter how many we get, it is still a losing fight, we are not a casher clan. Dass is more than willing to pick a fight with someone 20 levels under him, then when we defend, he calls in 4 (or more) other level 70s to help him, almost all of them valor capped, so they only join to cause gear damage and curses they refuse to heal. ">

This request is just a very minor suggestion to help the Whole Game grow better. I am valor capped, if admin finally decides to change this, it will make no difference for me (until 90 is opened), but it would help all other bc defenders get Some reward for fighting back. I would at least like an explanation, from admin, on why this is the Only time that PvP does not award valor. ">
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