Reaghnf
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My two cents on Bullying...
I'm writing this thread because I've read a lot of post and comments on this subject lately and I lost a good friend from the game due to it. Does Bullying exist on here? Absolutely. Is this a war game? Absolutely. Do we all play this game for the same reason. Absolutely not.
So let me first say this. I am not one of the people who cares if I am cursed or attacked. Being in Ninth has thickened my skin considerably with how much we are attacked by HF in particularly and a few other clans lately. BCing is a very fun part of the game. You can test yourself against friends one on one or even go for players of higher levels and see how strong you are. Also very cool equipment and mounts come with the rep. So do it! But here is where the difference is. ...
Here is the list of the people have BC'd me in the past month...
Bubbagorn
DassDass
Andry
RF, Ant, Greenie (few others but ea was 10 levels higher min) All at once.
MTDill
Suspira - Did not BC out of being mean. Was for quest which I will always be ok with.
How many out there think I could win a single one of these? (God bless your kind soul if you do.)
The purpose of these attacks aren't a fair fight or because its a war game. War games are fun when there is a chance to win and a chance to lose. When Ninth war'd Elite it was one of the more enjoyable fights because it could've gone either way at the start. There was a challenge to it! The purpose of these BC attacks (minus Suspira's) are not the same as that war. They are design to to upset me enough to quit Ninth or complain enough to my management that we need to stop standing up for ourselves on islands. (which won't happen on either account - refer to first paragraph where it says "I don't care about curses...") I don't fight these fights. Been called a coward a couple of times. (refer to my signature for that). Or have been threatened with more BC's more attacks etc... Thread on guardians page has my name in it was one of these types of threats. I personally rather be a coward then act stupidly for the pleasure of others. That is the Bullying.
When you attack someone 10-20 levels below mounted and buffed. Don't kid yourself. You aren't doing it because you love a fight or this is a war game. You are doing it as a intimidation tactic or you don't have the skill to take on someone who can beat you. I also include those of you who attack someone with a plan to bring in others to the fight when you start losing. You BC someone and start losing. Man/Women up and take it.
In fact I've only ever been BC'd once by someone within 2 levels of me in a year of playing.
Like I said just my two cents on it. Lets stop trying to sugar coat or say "its a war game" crap. Most of us are old enough to know the difference. If you don't care you don't care. I personally have more respect for players who come out and say it. I've seen Trongster admit to it and I respect him for that.
P.S. This is all just talk because I don't know if anyone has noticed by "Bullying" punishment is no longer in the punishment section LOL.
So let me first say this. I am not one of the people who cares if I am cursed or attacked. Being in Ninth has thickened my skin considerably with how much we are attacked by HF in particularly and a few other clans lately. BCing is a very fun part of the game. You can test yourself against friends one on one or even go for players of higher levels and see how strong you are. Also very cool equipment and mounts come with the rep. So do it! But here is where the difference is. ...
Here is the list of the people have BC'd me in the past month...
Bubbagorn
DassDass
Andry
RF, Ant, Greenie (few others but ea was 10 levels higher min) All at once.
MTDill
Suspira - Did not BC out of being mean. Was for quest which I will always be ok with.
How many out there think I could win a single one of these? (God bless your kind soul if you do.)
The purpose of these attacks aren't a fair fight or because its a war game. War games are fun when there is a chance to win and a chance to lose. When Ninth war'd Elite it was one of the more enjoyable fights because it could've gone either way at the start. There was a challenge to it! The purpose of these BC attacks (minus Suspira's) are not the same as that war. They are design to to upset me enough to quit Ninth or complain enough to my management that we need to stop standing up for ourselves on islands. (which won't happen on either account - refer to first paragraph where it says "I don't care about curses...") I don't fight these fights. Been called a coward a couple of times. (refer to my signature for that). Or have been threatened with more BC's more attacks etc... Thread on guardians page has my name in it was one of these types of threats. I personally rather be a coward then act stupidly for the pleasure of others. That is the Bullying.
When you attack someone 10-20 levels below mounted and buffed. Don't kid yourself. You aren't doing it because you love a fight or this is a war game. You are doing it as a intimidation tactic or you don't have the skill to take on someone who can beat you. I also include those of you who attack someone with a plan to bring in others to the fight when you start losing. You BC someone and start losing. Man/Women up and take it.
In fact I've only ever been BC'd once by someone within 2 levels of me in a year of playing.
Like I said just my two cents on it. Lets stop trying to sugar coat or say "its a war game" crap. Most of us are old enough to know the difference. If you don't care you don't care. I personally have more respect for players who come out and say it. I've seen Trongster admit to it and I respect him for that.
P.S. This is all just talk because I don't know if anyone has noticed by "Bullying" punishment is no longer in the punishment section LOL.
You nailed that.
*Waits for sadar to say something stupid and start another flame war*
Hmmm... 7 months as a Sadar, 2 as Vaalor.
Why....you just did by trying to stoke the flames again with your comments......
[QNAMEF kind="v" gender="m"]Reaghnf:[/QNAMEF]
I was Vaalor on a bunch of previous toons.
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You know they will.
I know they will.
But this post, or geckos post wasn't intended for a flame war.
But we'll get it anyways.
Your comparisons are awful, ISIS and DE are total different things with total different people and envirements, comparing those two is like comparing the ancient Egypt and modern world. And for your "general": I'm sure that the games he plays are a lot different to DE too, with less action (such as Goodgame Empire). Also I'm not sure whether you're aware of psychological stuff (please tell me that I write that right!) but in RL when someone gets bullied, they will fear their bullies too and try to stay away from them as much as possible (even in kindergarten!). So why wouldn't the victims of bullies want to run and hope that their bullies stop soon? If I'm correct then all your "Logic" just got lost.
Sincerely "me"
tl;dr
When you belittle someone they usually don't forget, i didn't forget.
or did u forget when u was the first to have clans attack against just few of our members bullies i think not
"being funny you make it like it was unfair ur 51 in just turned 56 5 levels different" Ant you were mounted and buffed and greenie and RF was with you. Then Seconds later TMC, wraith and Supermaus. Tell me one player other then maybe Suspira who can win that? lol You didn't intend a fair fight especially because I was not mounted. One on one we would be close. But that it was not. You were trying to make a statement with me. That was the point of this post. You were using BC as a tactic. Not a fight. Come out and say I was attacking with a massive group to all Ninth to make a point and piss you all off and I'll respect that. I've also never attacked your clan. You can refer to Nurse, Rellik, Never in your clan for this.
-AKay-,
This comment I will explain to everyone. I saw Akay on the Islands standing in the open. Just sent a friendly message saying they should stay in the hideout so you don't get BC'd. It happens a lot out there. But was taken as offensive and I've apologized if it was, but there was no malicious intent behind the comment.
That part of it i didnt mind, what i did mind was the "you're too small to be talking big" can't remember exact words but the too small part was spot on.
call me a bully i call it reaping what you sow suppose that's just me though
Don't remember an apology, don't really need one, just want to be respected as i respected you.
With respect to attacking people who have no chance against you... When I was a low level in HellFire, 9th legion waged a war on us. When I say war it was more of a terror campaign. It made us all so angry, we HATED 9th. The leadership could take care of themselves but us low levels were getting slaughtered. Our cries forced our leadership to negotiate a deal rather than continue the bloodshed. While this experience was extremely frustrating it showed me how effective a strategy it can be. With it, one man or woman who is particularly determined and doesn't care much about their reputation can bring a clan to their knees.
My advice. Keep your head down, progress your reputation, never forget those who hit you and enjoy your sweet revenge one day. The tides in this game are always changing. Clans fall from grace and others rise, your turn will come.
While I understand that it is extremely frustrating for the person being bonecrushed, again
This wasn't a clan post. This wasn't a sympathy post for Ninth. Nor will I continue this debate in comments. The reason for this post was the person who left the game. This post is about her. She didn't get involved in clan fights or arguments. Just did her thing and liked to belong. But players kept attacking her for no other reason to make her quit because of the same reason you attacked me. You want to point out where me. REAGHNF was ever in a fight against IL I will be happy to backtrack any of my statements. Show one instance where I bullied by attacking a little, I will happily delete this whole conversation from tavern. I'm speaking as a individual, not a clan. This happened to me when I was in VS and in ID (inferno delta for younger players). Fight clans in wars and not attack their members to make a point because many of them are just playing to play.
Are you a bully? no. In that instance were you trying to be? Yes. For my time in game I always thought you a respectable player and still do.
-AKay-,
Might have gotten lost in conversation with arcane after. But will say, I apologize for anything that was said.
In my opinion if everyone did this and took bonecrushing as part of the game and didn't belittle people who play game would run smoooooooth :D.
Another point (im bad at English don't make fun of me) id say that theres a point wer bonecrushing does get silly I mean I was just trying to do my traps and I got jumped by a level 56 although I didn't really care mainly for the reason because I knew it would start something up. I kept it to myself and kept the curse.
Even thought ive said all this there have been points in this game wer things have gotten out of hand and have had some pretty offensive things said to me. The power of 1 message is immense as well as the bc.
I wont name the name but all I remember is he lied and got a whole clan to bc me and my old clan and it practically drove me away (inferred a lot by now)
So obviously I left and im only in contact with one of em.
the power of that 1 message and bc caused a whole chain reaction. People always pull out the excuse of it being a game were you fight. But what about those who choose not to and want to play a nice game of questing and talking to the nice community?
Not only this but isn't there a point wer harmless pvp becomes a drive not allow the other person to play and intentionally make them leave?
TBH I don't really care who bc's who but at the end of the day I wanna be friends with everyone :D even people who bc me I make friends with them and get along with them still :D
Finally I say take some time to think and eat some noodles